To be clear, when I say "classroom discussion," I mean a class full of students, all talking about a topic, or series of topics, for a sustained time (like...more than a couple minutes?). This looks mostly like one student talking at a time, and everyone else listening. The teacher may or may not be involved, and there may or may not be any other participation structures.
Experiencing Classroom Discussion as a Student
In math class, the discourse was almost entirely centered around the teacher. I never found discussions particularly educational. I'm not sure who did. For the most part, the content seemed pretty cut-and-dry. Image of a traditional classroom, the teacher's modeling and lecture provided all the information. Any small details, confusion, or minor discovery came out in the problems sets completed alone at home. I never feel the desire or need to wrestle over the math in discussion.
In my smaller math seminars later in college, where the professor explicitly invited discussion, we were all so intimidated and self-conscious that we didn't want to participate for fear of revealing how little we understood. By "we," I mean my friends and I who bonded over how lost in the sauce we felt so often. I presume there was at least a handful of people who felt, as I did in high school, that discussion was unnecessary or uninteresting.
These experience as a student led me to form the following schema about classroom discussion:
It felt like there was a pretty narrow target of students who benefitted from discussion. I would say these students are in the "Zone of Utility," where classroom discussion provides some kind of utility or benefit. They are relatively small "Goldilocks" group where the content is neither so hard it's intimidating, or so easy it's uninteresting to discuss. One assumption of this model is that understanding is one-dimensional spectrum, which is an oversimplification for sure.
What They Taught Me In Grad School
What was told to me about classroom discussion in grad school:
- It should be something that happens in almost every class, almost every day.
- It is an effective way to make sure everyone engages with the lesson objective or Big Idea.
- It is useful in an of itself, because it requires students to make sense of other people's thinking.
- It is a form of communication that can honor the discourse culture of the individuals and whole (classroom) community.
- Without discussion, many students can engage in a common math experience, but fail to arrive at the teacher's learning objective, these students are, as I described myself earlier, "Lost in the Sauce." Only a small subset of students managed to meet the teacher's learning objective.
- With discussion, many students can engage in a common math experience. As shown in the "Without Discussion" model, probably not all students will arrive at the teacher's learning objective independently, so the discussion after the math experience serves as a way to "funnel" most students to the learning objective.
- I didn't have a super clear idea about what a classroom discussion CAN do, and what ONLY classroom discussion can do.
- Discussion for its own sake is a palpable waste of time.
- Class discussions aren't "free learning." Just because students are talking about what they did or what someone else did doesn't mean the speaker or listener are learning from what's being said.
This discouraging experience led me to form the additional model about how my classroom discussions went (and how I thought they went down in many other classrooms):
- With ineffective discussion, many students can engage in a common math experience, but fail to arrive at the teacher's learning objective independently. These students are, as I described myself earlier, "Lost in the Sauce." Only a small subset of students managed to meet the teacher's learning objective. I then manage to lead an ineffective classroom discussion, which at best serves to validate and confirm those few students who had pretty much met the learning objective already, and at worst further alienates students who felt they had not met the learning objective.
My end-of-class discussions weren't going particularly well. Where any of my classroom discussions going well?
To be continued!